May 15, 2025
The Bearded Mystic's Oneness Conversations with KnoweRata
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Send us a text Rahul and Knowe Rata explore the dance between spiritual awakenin g and human experience, discussing how to remain authentic while grounded in awareness. They share insights on bhakti yoga, the power of silence, and the nature of consciousness beyond physical death. • Knowe shares his journey into spirituality that began in his teens through meditation and evolved through Buddhist groups and bhakti yoga • Both discuss the importance of looking after the physical body on the ...
Rahul and Knowe Rata explore the dance between spiritual awakenin
g and human experience, discussing how to remain authentic while grounded in awareness. They share insights on bhakti yoga, the power of silence, and the nature of consciousness beyond physical death.
• Knowe shares his journey into spirituality that began in his teens through meditation and evolved through Buddhist groups and bhakti yoga
• Both discuss the importance of looking after the physical body on the spiritual path without becoming rigid or puritanical
• Bhakti yoga and devotion create profound openings through their meditative singing and surrender to something higher
• Silence emerges as perhaps the ultimate spiritual teaching, transmitting truth beyond what words can express
• They explore how spiritual communities must adapt to artificial intelligence while providing experiences AI cannot replicate
• Death is contemplated as a beautiful reminder of life's temporality while consciousness itself never truly dies
• Both emphasize staying authentic on the spiritual path rather than creating separate "spiritual personas"
• The paradoxical nature of awakening involves being fully human while recognizing one's boundless true nature
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Hello and welcome to the Bearded Mystic Podcast and I'm your host, rahul N Singh.
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Thank you for joining me today.
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I am joined today by Noe Rata, who is an Australian non-dual teacher, a spiritual teacher, and who's pretty big on YouTube.
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But I'm going to let him introduce himself to you and, most of all, before we go to no way, I want you to like and comment on this video and subscribe to both of our channels also.
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So um over to you, no way thanks for who?
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thanks for having me on I, I really appreciate it.
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Um, and to you reaching out.
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And, yeah, for anyone watching that hasn't seen my sharings on YouTube, I guess it's weird trying to describe this thing of what I do, but I guess I create videos and I share videos about the nature of reality and our experience.
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I started uploading a couple of years ago and, yeah, it's been a great journey so far.
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I really share about the nature of being and who we are and the spiritual reality that is behind everything in this world, and I also love to share, uh, about our, our human experience.
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You know, our, our emotional body.
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Um, I think that's that's really important to me as well.
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Uh, to include that side of it and, um, yeah, thanks, thanks for being here thank you, um.
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So what got you interested into spirituality?
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Was it something that you've um?
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Have you grown up in a spiritual household or you know what?
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What did?
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What does it look like for you?
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it's.
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It's yeah, it's funny when you say that because, like, if you grow up in a spiritual household, because it's like you know, then I, instantly, when you say that, I think to like you know, just like random funny stuff happening with my family and completely you know, like not what people would expect.
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You know, like just mucking around and kind of like making fun of each other, like I, yeah, I grew up in a really a really normal, like loving household.
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I have like two really good parents that I'm really grateful and proud to have, and I have a brother, younger brother and sister.
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And yeah, I started, I guess, in my teen years.
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It just started as a really natural unfolding as we all do in our teen years.
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You know, I was having difficulties and stuff at school and just in life in general and that's really normal, but I, uh, I tended to be quite sensitive around a lot of it and that was like forcing, really forcing me into a place of inquiry and I I really remember just you know, sitting in my sitting in my room and like searching on YouTube at 14, 15, like what is meditation and you know, watching.
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There's a guy called on YouTube somewhere.
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I used to watch him like Vishadu Das or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I used to watch his and some other people and also getting into that whole like self-help world because I felt at the time I needed it.
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But you know, I remember just like sitting in my room and closing my eyes and trying to meditate and like at that age being so naive, like even trying to like visualise worlds and stuff like that, and trying to like visualize worlds and stuff like that, and yeah, it really just unfolded from there.
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I became really interested in it and I kind of kept it, you know, a bit hidden from some friends and people in my life.
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And even a friend of mine was like oh, you know, you seem pretty happy, just like sitting in your room like meditating and stuff like that, and I, around about 18, 17, I actually studied a diploma of film.
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It was like filmmaking and there was also some, uh, acting stuff and that's all I did.
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But, um, that as well in itself actually created like such a um, such an opening for me, because it wasn't even like that.
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I realized quite soon it wasn't even that world that I was really interested in.
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It was like there was something in that year of that diploma that was like a mini awakening in itself, because something really clicked when I was, you know, learning about, you know scripts and uh and all of that and emotions, where I realized, like, oh, there's actually something behind this.
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And I actually realized, like, you know, we're something behind this.
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And I actually realized, like, you know, we're all kind of doing that in this everyday life, like this is a really a big play and when you are present in in the moment, you know there's a sort of like there's a life and uh, uh and awareness like behind everything that's happening, and so that was great in itself.
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You know, I thought I might have, you know, a career in that, but then it just I believe that was there at the time to like show me more about beingness and the nature of who we are.
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And, um, you know, I moved to sydney not long after and then, um, I I got involved with a buddhist group here called uh tratna buddhism and that was amazing in itself.
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I was doing like weekly classes, retreats, I got into like bhakti yoga and I was part of a group there and, you know, behind that as well, I was just learning a lot online.
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Like you know, teachers like Eckhart Tolle, rupert Spira, like they've had a huge, huge influence on me and, yeah, it kind of just picked up more and more and then, you know, I had some breakthroughs and then it just felt like a natural unfolding to start sharing, because I felt so much freedom and peace inside, like so much it opened up, um, and so much, yeah, there's just so much freedom and joy.
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It was so unbelievable to me but so natural as well, right, like nothing special at all, but it just felt so liberating like what I was going through and kind of opening to that.
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I just like, yeah, I have to share this and, um, I find great joy in doing that.
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Oh, wonderful.
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So we could say like spirituality is kind of interwoven into your life very naturally.
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So it seems.
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And you mentioned how you did the acting, and Rupert Spire talks a lot about the King Lear example.
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I think you must have heard of it, but that was coming to my mind to that.
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You know, um, obviously the actor will always know that he's playing the character King Lear, and if he starts thinking he's King Lear, that would be a bit strange going home and thinking he's part of that.
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But, um, so that's really interesting that you you mentioned that and you mentioned something about awareness and, um, what I would like to know is, when you started sharing more about this, uh, what you've been going through, um, how did you remain grounded in awareness during during that time, or even now, so to speak?
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Well, that's a really good question because, um, you know, I've I've heard speakers speak about about that before, where you know some people might not be ready to hear some of this or just not in a place to maybe surrender to it fully.
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The mind and our thought streams, our, you know, personal self, like it always wants some sort of, it always wants some sort of proof for everything right, and even in our human reality.
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You know, a lot of us swear by science like it's the new, it's the new God, and a lot of this I think can be a bit destabilizing if someone's wanting an exact proof or written proof, because it just doesn't operate in the level of mind.
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We're speaking about something that is non-conceptual and is just here, it's alive and it's, it's always here, and we all know that and I'm sure a lot watching and yourself that you know the reality we're speaking about is it's purely here and it's um, there's a quality that you can't really.
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You can speak about it, but you can't exactly.
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Um, like, hit the nail on the head and back to what you.
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What you asked is like, how did I stay grounded?
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Was, yeah, really, um, looking after myself, even from a younger age, was, like you know, by no means am I, definitely like, by no means am I like, oh, you know, like trying to be some sort of Puritan or something or saying, oh, you have to do everything really clean.
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You know, that's definitely that's not really the way.
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But, you know, I looked after myself, I kept meditating for years and I, you know, there were certain things that I felt really disrupted my system and my like evolution, one being and I actually spoke about this recently like alcohol, like I stopped that some years ago.
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And again, like there's many like people that are awake to reality that drink, and it doesn't make a difference, but that here, like, helped me a lot and um, just a lot of like self-compassion and love as well.
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Like, when it does get hard, you know it's knowing that you're always, you're never stuck, you're always returning to yourself here, and there will be hard moments, there will be moments where you feel like your whole world is getting torn apart, and that's that's happened here.
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And um, it's knowing that actually, like, in those moments where it's really difficult, there's, there's gold on the other side, right, and it's something I've inquired into a lot, this whole thing of like the you know, the dark night of the soul and the, the shadow and everything like that and like, really like, yeah, what, what is that?
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And I believe it is just something in humanity that exists within the individual, but it exists within the awareness, within the nature of you, just like you know, the happy, great, really joyful things exist within you.
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They're just, it's just part of the play and, um, the waking up out of that is is seeing that it is some sort of like creation and arising and that nothing is fixed and it's just a wave that's coming.
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And I guess the more someone, the more you can come back to that place of like not getting so lost in what's what's appearing.
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Then you're able to find that, that like peace that never leaves you.
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It's just always kind of there in your experience and it's what we are all right now and you know we just feel that we don't have to try and understand it, even through what I'm saying.
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It's just something that is felt.
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It's interesting because when you speak of this awareness, when you speak of the inexpressible, those that get it, they can actually feel what you're saying right now.
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Like you know, I could experience exactly what you're experiencing, because it is beyond location and beyond time and space and and all that, and so, uh, that's important.
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What I really liked about what you said and which I felt was really, it's important, sometimes overlooked it's actually about looking after the human body, uh, whether pre or post awakening, because just because you know we are not the body and mind doesn't mean that we just can do whatever we want and indulge and uh, or even abstain, uh, if you're doing it, for you know, as you mentioned, puritan reasons like that would be, uh, that would be going on the other side.
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Uh and um, and I can somewhat, um, relate to the whole.
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You know, not drinking alcohol can be beneficial.
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Um, right now I'm going through this thing of not eating any sugar.
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Um, not, it's very difficult as that's like a drug in itself, um, so, um, but it's just watching the body and yes, and I still have yeah, I still have moments with sugar as well, where you know my, my partner, will bring home like brownies and then it'll be every second day eating a brownie or or something like that, and it's also that's part of the joy and fun is like letting yourself and you're not just like if it feels like you know, of course, if it feels like there's just a desire there, you want to have a brownie or an ice cream, then have it and explore those kind of feelings of like you know, holding back and then enjoying.
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And yeah, yes, you're off, though sorry no, no, no, no, that's absolutely fine.
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Um, and I think, uh, and yet just remaining in awareness when those desires come up, when that feeling of wanting, which has been quite regular, like I just want to eat something sweet and I think of different ways of how to do it, or I just scroll on TikTok and look at desserts, and you know but I'm observing my mind doing all this and it's amazing that, while being on this path, that I can remain in awareness and let the mind go wild and yet still have like absolute control, and it's just.
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It is a paradox in itself and I think that's only come about for me more in more recent times when I'm able to let the mind go places but also kind of remain grounded in in awareness.
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Uh, you mentioned that you did a bit of a bhakti yoga and you know what, whenever I hear someone's done bhakti yoga, I get really interested, because I don't hear a lot of um, as you know, non-dual speakers actually go into bhakti.
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I think bhakti is very important, especially if you're preparing or even after awakening too.
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Tell me a bit more about your bhakti yoga and what that looked like.
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Yeah, well, it was with a group here in Sydney called the Bhakti House and it was just such a warm and vibrant community to get involved in.
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And it's actually funny.
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I remember at one stage telling my mum that I was going there and she was like because some people from those older generations might have, I think, like it was shown on tv years ago, like 20, 30 years ago, in a certain way, like, oh, these people like walking down the street and like chanting all these stuff, and she's like, oh yeah, like isn't that the hari krishnas or or something?
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And like like thinking I've like joined some cult or something.
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And, um, I was like, no, I just like, I just like going.
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But it was like such a warm community and like.
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So what I found so profound when a kirtan is being done, because it's like a, I felt it opened up so much, because it's like a singing meditation, you know, with the instruments and the music, and there is something because it's so devotional and it has like this meditative quality.
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There's something that just like opens so much.
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When you do that, you just feel so much, like so much energy and love.
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And I, you know, read the Bhagavad Gita and I was like, yeah, you know, I'm not surprised why this like has the effect that it does, and yeah, I learned so much from that and I really all of those paths you know there's, there's so many that I really I really admire and you know think are really special and I always wanted to come back to that in myself, like I kind of knew, you know, and at least for now, like I I'm not just going with one specific, like I guess I'm devoted to this path, which is really life, like it's just being devoted to, to life.
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Um, but you know, I I had friends, even through buddhism, that were, like you know, so devoted with that and I always admired it so much because it's such a surrender to do that and I think it's so beautiful and there doesn't need to be this tension maybe in these worlds of like, oh, this is the right thing, this is wrong, and we all know that they're all just speaking about this timeless truth.
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Um, and you know, one path might take someone further up the mountain than another, and that's how it is yeah, um, yeah.
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However, you know, I agree that Whatever takes someone to that peak of the mountain, so be it.
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As long as you don't get halfway up the mountain and think you've reached the peak, all is good.
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Yeah, and I actually, in more recent times, I felt like a real affinity towards bhakti, towards devotion, like there is a thing about I've been reading some works of shri ramakrishna, paramahansa and um, you know, and he was swami vivekananda's guru, so he would talk about wanting to be with the divine mother or with god, and would talk about connecting with god, merging with god.
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And I've recently, as much as I love the kind of the logical and rationality of non-duality, but when you add bhakti to it, the devotional aspect, the oneness that you feel with the supreme and the so-called limited self that's in this body really there isn't any but that oneness when that merging happens there is a profound sense of peace, calmness, boundlessness that I don't think just comes with the purely rational non-duality.
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Sometimes I feel that can be missing, that boundlessness and the inner peace that can come from being devoted to something higher, even though, yes, at the end, you know, there's no such thing as higher or lower and there's no such thing as limited and limitless.
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It's all one, uh that play that you do in bhakti, it's it, I feel.
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I feel like it gets rid of a lot of the maybe the shadows, um that people go through, like I never had to do shadow work and I wouldn't know what to do in that um, but all I know is that bhakti kind of helps with all of those um, those vices or negativity or or that dark energy that can possibly consume uh, the mind um.
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So yeah, I like I mean I think giddin helps and chanting mantras and all that yeah, and it can give some structure.
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It can give some structure around it and I, I guess, like we're in a really interesting time where it's like there's there's so much on the internet now like you can just find anything, and you can find any teacher and really like find what resonates for you and what doesn't, and it's so like individual in that sense.
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And I had this conversation with a friend who, um, you know, was part of this buddhist group that you know I, I was also part of for a bit, and like I guess, and like he maybe struggled to understand like that part of the internet.
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Um, that is more like our culture is a lot more individualistic now, but but I don't really see it in that way, like it's taking away from the path.
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In fact, I think it's even better for people because there's just so much that's accessible there and I really, you know, I really feel and I feel this in what I share like there's so much connection there and space for people to just like carve their own way and you know, we can find a place where we can all share really what's worked for us and what hasn't.
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Um, and that's like getting rid of dogma, I guess, is like all sharing from the same space, like we all know that, and even the younger generations that grow up now they, lots of them, like they.
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They won't really have to go through this like discovery thing.
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It's going to be like that the shift is really and I don't want it to sound pretentious like, oh, the shift is happening, you know when people like it really, it really is in in some sense.
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And, um, you know around the world like it is just growing, this sense of like understanding more about ourselves and why we're here.
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So these younger generations will just grow up and they maybe have to like go through this whole seeking journey as much.
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It'll be more about like play and kind of expression of that beingness and that awakened, enlightened place that we're all in already yeah, for for sure, um, yeah, if you think about it, with artificial intelligence and chat, gpt, um, I think I I am interested to see how uh the spiritual institutions are going to um cope with this.
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When I say cope, cope is probably a bad word, but like more how they're going to deal with this, because you will now have, uh, I hope, um more rational if their seekers would be more rational and more, uh attuned to the language.
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Um.
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But the only thing that's going to be missing is the experience, and that's where I think a community comes in, and the community can give a real good experience, as you mentioned, of sharing ideas, sharing experiences, sharing just the energy.
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Sometimes it's just as simple as that.
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I think, yes, in on the internet, if it's, and I think it is being done by a few.
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I think a few of my friends have been able to set up some real good spiritual communities.
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I think one of them's on schoolcom, sunny, um, he's got a good community there, um I think I yeah I saw that because I I I tried a school thing for a bit and I just felt like it was the wrong timing and it was.
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It was good to start with.
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But yeah, sometimes we need to do that.
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You know, try different things.
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But yeah, I've ran it, bumped into his, yeah yes, yes, um, and I think if we can cultivate those communities as long as it's not around a personality alone, that it's actually around the teachings I think that can be really beneficial, especially with the rise of artificial intelligence, because, yeah, you could ask chat gpt about the nature of awareness, but the only thing is it will never be able to give you the experience of awareness.
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It can tell you about what the experience will feel like.
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It'd be very data driven, but not, um.
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You won't be able to experience it, and that's, I think that's where the community has to be ready for those type of that type of audience as well, which I think is going to be more um prominent, actually than than not, for the younger generation.
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Yeah, what?
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what do you mean by like that type of audience?
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Like what will they be ready for?
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What do you mean in?
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that I think, I think for the um, for going into the experience of awareness and being grounded in, in that aware, in in consciousness, and um being able to experience the boundlessness of consciousness, the formless aspect, where they can actually transcend the body and mind and be able to do the work necessary to remain in that state.
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Let me take it even a step further.
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I understand.
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Instead of chat GP, chat GPT, like being a teacher to someone, yeah, yeah, and there's some people now even who they say, well, could AI chat GPT, like develop, you know some sort of with how fast it's advancing, like some sort of like presence or consciousness, and maybe it can mimic it like really, really well.
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But you know, it's like what we're in now is like a natural and even using that word natural like what we're in now is like the all we're in, we're in the quantum field and even techno, like everything is being created from that.
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You know, this is like a creation from the spiritual dimension and you know gaia, but then we've created technology and it's really just an extension, this technology, of the gifts we already have within us, which is that infinite, you know all-knowing, like love and um power within us yes, um, yeah, actually, the word that you just used, now love, um, that is one thing I don't think artificial intelligence can ever express or explain to you what it feels like.
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Um, love is something that is incredibly individualistic in one sense, um, because until you experience it, only then you can watch that love expand into realizing actually, it's everywhere and in everything, and it's present even in the things that we probably disagree with or do not like at all or despise.
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It's even present there, um, so I think, uh, and that's the same thing with, I think, uh, spiritual enlightenment, or even um, consciousness, um, I, there's a swami that I interviewed him and I attended his retreat, swami server brian and g you probably have seen him around I saw, I saw your your video with him.
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I like watched a bit of it and I have seen him yeah he didn't mention once that.
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Um, apparently, sam altman, who is the I think he's right now, he's the ceo of open ai.
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He was asked what's the one thing that chat, gpt or artificial intelligence will never know, and he just said artman equals brumman.
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So, uh, in in, so to speak, that it will never get to know consciousness in itself, that, yes, it will know itself as a limited being, maybe, but you'll never know.
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Actually, that is actually everything and that can only come from, I think, human, the human life is the one.
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So in indian spirituality they say this human birth is so special and so rare that this is the only one where you can actually get to know your true nature.
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Um, I can only say that's true because I'm a human being right now.
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So, but, um, but, but the understanding that it's a rare opportunity.
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I don't think a lot of people really understand that either in today's world yeah, and what.
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What I'd like to see is like what you just said, which is like you know this, uh, you know, in this, um, in this teaching, you know it's like, yeah, human life is one of the rarest, most precious things we have is like really, it has technology advances like also, which we, we know is happening, like just our love for ourself and you know the and life and the mystical, and this world like just grows and grows and grows.
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So it's it's almost like running parallel to the increase of tech, because we kind of have to, as a species, to really evolve and go to the next level in our multidimensional selves and, you know, to not do what has happened in the past, you know, to damage the planet and all these other things.
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And, yeah, really, I really can see and believe there's like something really amazing and and wonderful coming.
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So yeah, yeah, I think it's going to be up to the likes of um content creators and um to make sure that they create communities which make the experience accessible, and make it when I say accessible, I mean the actual experience accessible.
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I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a paywall or anything like that.
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I'm not talking about that side of things.
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I'm talking more about that, when you're in a conversation with someone that they can take you to that experience, they can take you to the direct realization of what one's true nature is.
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And even without words, like we can get to that point where we just kind of, even without words, like we can get to that point where we just we just kind of we know, through feeling and sharing our being, that we're in the same place and that we're we're connected and yeah, it's so true, okay.
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So this is uh, I'm gonna take you here now um silence.
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It's got to be the greatest teaching ever.
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I mean I don't think there's anything close to it yeah, and that's what's funny about all all you know, even sharing online.
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Like you know, we use words and we use language, you know, every day and to you know, convey ideas.
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But you're right, like silence is so powerful and just teaches so much.
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And so there's part of me that almost feels like using words and speaking online, like I just want to sit there in silence.
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But I also think there's ways we can use language that really can like create a, create a space that actually goes beyond the words or opens people to that right.
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That it's.
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It's not just the words that's being spoken, it's the place in which they're arising from, and that's what I, that's what I try and do, that's that's I mean, that's what I feel.
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Every, every video, it's like it's got nothing to do with what I say.
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It's like how I'm feeling and just really like it's just a sharing with the other, with you, with the camera, with myself.
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That is just from that place and, you know, maybe that will open someone to that.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, I can recall moments when I would ask my guru a question, and sometimes it's just maybe like a few moments of silence, um, but there was such that silence had such a vibration.
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I think no word could ever get you to or no pointing could get you to.
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Uh, when, when, when it was just silence there, um, I just it was like as if the whole universe is teaching.
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I could feel it.
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I could sense it.
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I could like I was taking it all in and that was just in, and it didn't matter what words my guru was going to say next, because that was um, and you know some.
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And also I think my guru was a bit cheeky because he also smiled a bit afterwards.
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So it's kind of like you knew what, I knew what he was doing.
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But that transmission that happens in silence, even when you use words, like you mentioned in your videos.
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Like I can sense that when I watch your videos it is coming from a place of silence.
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It's not coming from oh, this is the response I want from my audience.
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It's not that, it's coming from a much deeper place and um and I wish silence was um exploitable yeah, yeah, exactly, and that that place is is freedom, like even even when we are speaking that, that silence, you know, beingness is always there and I guess what you are and what lots of us are doing, and even those just in their everyday life, is we're transmitting that.
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Right, we all have that radio tuner that can tune into that, into that space of beingness, like we can, you know, turn it up, up or down and, um, yeah, that's that's really what we're transmitting, uh, all the time, and it's it's sharing that place of freedom.
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And that's what I'm really wanting others to do is like I know we were saying before about, like you know, how people, how people share, but it's like what I'm, what I'm, what I'm wanting is like others to be in that place as well and so, like they can do their work, the creative work, or share from that place.
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And it's quite a there's quite like, it's quite a dance, and something I'm dancing with is like you know, how free can I be in this video?
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How free can I be in the sharing?
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How creative can I be, uh, when in this kind of like matrix construct, you know, we're a little bit like um, it's a little bit limited in some way in terms of like.
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You know, sometimes when someone expresses so much or really like is so bright or there's so much play like it can like.
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Maybe others might think, oh, something's off here, but then you know, you're really entering that space of freedom, really entering that space of of freedom.
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So I think we're going to learn more about play a lot, of, a lot of our this space and our culture where we can just like break the mold a little bit.
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And, yeah, for me it's a balance between, like at times I felt like, you know, there is that responsibility because I am sharing with people, um, you know, and it does have an effect, and there has been questioning quite a bit of, oh, you know, should I have said that or all of this stuff, and I think that's so normal, but also not getting too tight, like letting yourself be free, you know, yeah free.
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Um, you know, yeah, I agree with that.
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No way, because, um, I've, at times, when it's come to like my own videos, sometimes I can, I feel like I stop myself from expressing the the fullness of the truth because I'm like, well, I don't know if my audience is ready to hear this, and I still know that people are on the journey and they're not going to understand when I talk about the nature of consciousness in its purest and most, uh, wonderful, uh way.
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They just will.
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You know, they, they're still in the head, so to speak, and I've got to kind of address that.
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But then, you know, what you said is also true.
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Like, sometimes I feel like you know what we'll see.
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If it, if people get it, they get it, if they don't, they don't, that's not going to matter to me.
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Um, and I think, yes, just um, and I think, yes, just being able to play with the fullness of this consciousness, this awareness, is possibly an interesting way for content creation.
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I think, so to speak.
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And, yeah, I think you do have to be playful with it, because I think it can become really dry as well, so if you're, really serious you like like sometimes you're going.
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Yeah, I, I like, I like to have fun as well, like we all do, and I mean to me, like I, I just don't think it would be worth it.
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And I love, I love having fun and, you know, enjoying myself and you, we all have different styles, but I think, yeah, it's like, I guess it feels good, like we want to wake up and have fun, we want to have something to like, look forward to Right and to me, this path, non-duality, spirituality, it's, it's exciting and I love it and I, I really do feel like it's something that's fun and we can learn to have more fun with um.
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And then, you know, some people might look at some I know this isn't the case, it's back to what we were saying like it could just be something I think, but, um, you know, some people could look at some sharings or or or a certain style of um sharing something and think like, oh, you know this is too far, or this is um, you know this is wrong or incorrect, but like, maybe that person just needs to to see that at the time and just, that's not the right like thing they're meant to tune in with Um, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
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Um, and and you know, I also truly believe that when we share the truth, um, you cannot guarantee how the audience is going to take that and what they're going to get from it, and it also depends on their mindset, what they've gone through the day, god knows what they've experienced, um, and there's so much uh, factors that go in into how somebody will receive your message and your sharing and um, but all we can do is be mindful of that, but still share and and and you know, just, I guess just be mindful of it and can't do anything else really you know what I think will be possible, which I can't wait for, like with this whole.
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Some people might, fair enough, think like, oh, you know, that's like we don't want that.
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But with vr kind of progressing and that whole world, like you know, 20 years from now you can have like some headset on it, like scans your full face, like full photo, realistic, and you can all feel like you're like sitting in a space, you know, like this, like beautiful big space together, but you're like in different parts of the world and you can like have some sort of like immersive sharing, like I think that's that's the benefit to these kind of things is like that will all be possible and yeah, I'm like that'd be like a big a big satsang and it's like it's like
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mystical jungle, and yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's possible.
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I mean I don't think, um, I don't think that's far away, to be fair, I think that's pretty, pretty close.
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I think you could be looking at next five to ten years when people will um, will have that um, and what'd be interesting in that in that is, do we add another layer of existence when it comes to VR?
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You already have this world, then on top of that, you got this VR world.
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Then do, does, when do?
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Are we able to maintain, to maintain, uh, grounded in awareness during that time?
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Because that would be an interesting thing to also see whether we create a new vr kind of um character, uh, so to speak, because that can happen with people if they're not awakened.
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It's very easy to create a new persona within the persona you already have yeah, interstellar, I was getting inception there.
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Yeah, on a deeper level, you know, it's like on a sorry, on a smaller scale, like that's already it's happening in some way online, right, like people online social media and like that's, that's okay.
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That's just how naturally the ego works, as it wants to be seen a certain way, and I've always tried to remain like true to who I am and what I'm sharing and, you know, not putting on anything and, um, it might resonate with some and others it doesn't, and I guess I share from that place and um, yeah, so it's like that's happening on a small scale and, you're right, like it could be in those worlds.
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Yeah, people try, people um kind of create another version of themselves, but that in itself will be like an awakening because, like, we're getting then into that creative space where we realize like, oh, things are not really fixed, like what we immerse ourselves in, the identity is really, it's really fluid and um, like the creative, like place we can get to, where we feel that peace is.
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Like noticing awareness is the power behind that right, and the more we can be in awareness, the more we can create, the more, the less we take um things about ourselves seriously and uh, we could just enjoy.
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Um, yeah, yeah no, I totally agree.
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I think, uh, yes, and social media does create, um, on a smaller scale, a different sense of self and um, and, and I find it quite interesting, because, no matter if you have a social media, actually that's the one thing that I felt like with spirituality since I got serious about it that you can't be, you can't be of two different characters, like there's not a spiritual me and then a work me, a family me, whatever me, a family me, uh, uh, whatever me.
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Like they can't be two or three.
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You can't have two, three avatars in your mind.
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Uh, you can if you're truly on the spiritual path.
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I think the safest way is just to be yourself and just be one, whether, but if the workplace doesn't accept you, it's never going to accept you.
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Whether, but if the workplace doesn't accept you, it's never going to accept you.
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Then you know, don't take it so seriously.
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If your family doesn't take you seriously after that, well, what can we say?
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You know, like you.
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you've got to be authentic on this journey, I feel.
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And I think if we're not honest, if we're not authentic, being spiritual and getting yourself to remain in awareness is a difficult task, because one will always be in the ego game.
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Yeah, and it'd be masquerading as awareness in a weird way and it's like it's when, when you, when that person on that path like is uh honest with themselves, like, and then they're speaking from that place, that you can, you can feel it Right and um, I think, like you know, we all are in that place, but the more we can like be honest with ourselves and what we value and yeah, not not lying to ourselves, like reality does have a truth to it and it speaks from that place.
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And I think this is how we get free now, especially when we're entering a world where the biggest thing that people will struggle with is like deciphering what is what's true and what's not.
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You know, you now have all these um, it's like a bit of a different topic, but you have all these like deep fake you know ai videos and you see some of them.
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And then there's like all these older people like oh, my god, like what's what's happened.
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And then there's people just like, no, that's, that's ai and it's.
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It's a similar thing with ourself is like when we can just be grounded in ourself, be honest with what's happening in our experience, then you know we just get more free.
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And I think when we get more free and this has been part of the journey here and it is with, with everyone.
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You know, when we can get more free and honest with ourself, like these layers fall away and we just lose that fear.
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